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Introduction to using this site. Wednesday afternoon. Using
interactive, virtual spaces to collaborate and reflect. Intro to the
Gallery, Journals and Commenting.
Post away!!
(following are the comments from the original post).
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by shell on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:40 AM PDT Eleanor is the bomb!
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by Carol on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:40 AM PDT http://newton.mec.edu/nshs I have a love/hate relationship with technology.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by Willow on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:44 AM PDT
I agree, but my relationship is a little closer to hate!
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by eleanor on Friday, July 15, 2005 @ 9:31 AM PDT http://elramsay.com believe it or not, so do I.
I
love it for the freedom it gives me. I love all the stuff that other
people hate (troubleshooting when things go wrong, writing code,
wrestling the machines to the ground).
But, I love tactile things and I cannot touch the world inside the computer and I hate that.
I hate cellphones.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by Carol on Monday, July 18, 2005 @ 4:35 PM PDT http://newton.mec.edu/nshs I
agree about the tactile problem ... someday, though, there will
probably be a marriage between computers and touchable media. (e.g., an
extension of wearable computers, etc.) Don't know what that will be -
or if it will be in our career-time .....
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by mak on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:41 AM PDT
So far, so good!
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by Jan on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:41 AM PDT
A little confusing the first time, but I'm catching on.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by heather on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:42 AM PDT
working with paper and drawing on the wall talked about fischli and weiss with carol carol showed me the honda ad clearly influenced/ stolen from fischli and weiss
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by Debbie on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:42 AM PDT
The
text we're using ("In the Making") is highly recommended for insightful
views (and options) on Contemporary Art (in my opinion!).
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by maruiwa on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:43 AM PDT
Okay.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by June on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:43 AM PDT
"My
rule number one-have something to say. The other is, do what you are
good at and what you enjoy, and in the end people will respect you for
it. Don't ask, "What needs to be done? What is the gap that is waiting
to be filled? What are the pictures the world needs?" -Kentridge
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by rita on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:43 AM PDT
The studio time has been all too brief.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by ccommossabercrombie on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:43 AM PDT
Day
three: We are eager to work on our artworks. The computer stuff is
good, but I am itchy to get started or finish something. This morning
and other days have been exploration so far.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by DEBCHS on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:44 AM PDT
Everything's cool here.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by Jane on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:45 AM PDT
Good breakfast coffee.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by Lauren on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:46 AM PDT
I love this poem for what it says about the artist's experience in creating and the catalyst of frustration. --Lauren
Wanting by Ruth Stone
Wanting and dissatisfaction are the main ingredients of happiness. To want is to believe there is something worth getting. Whereas getting only shows how worthless the thing is. And this is why destruction is so useful. It gets rid of what was wanted and so makes room for more to be wanted. How valueless is the orderly. It cries out for disorder. And life that thinks it fears death, spends all of its time courting death. To violate beauty is the essence of sexual desire. To procreate is the essence of decay.
© Copyright Ruth Stone Reprinted from In The Next Galaxy (Copper Canyon Press, 2002). [Published in the Santa Cruz Sentinel July 14, 2002.]
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by Jan on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 7:20 PM PDT
This poem makes me feel normal...
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by johng on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:49 AM PDT
What
happens after a fire? Cornelia Parker reconstructs the building to
remind us that the presense of things never really vanish completely.
Marge Piercy asks us to think about the evidence of fire.
Maybe
art is the evidence of fire. The mind and body burns, smolders. The
artwork is the evidence of the creative process that burns deep in us.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by Carol on Monday, July 18, 2005 @ 4:48 PM PDT http://newton.mec.edu/nshs I
like the idea about art being evidence of fire. I remember a dance
teacher telling me (30 years ago) that I had "the sacred fire". I've
often thought of that - - how the intensity (of fire) is both a
blessing and a curse. The challenge is how to keep it going without
letting it consume you.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by potter on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:49 AM PDT
Well
after a slow start in getting things into the space, i started making
the gelatin prints that I was planning to work on. I made 2 plates last
nite and started out simply making some fields of color on which to
work. I also pulled some ghost prints and started to fill the walls
with these sheets. I started to ink leaves and placing them on the
plate and pulling prints and just went wild. I'm having so much fun
making these things. It is pushing me to think in a very different way
than what I'm used to. Which is really the goal of this class as far as
I'm concerned. I'm very anxious to get back into the space and get busy
with the next series or round of the prints that I want to be working
on. In all honesty as much as I know that I need to learn more about
using the computer and all the applications that are available to me, I
really do not want to be here right now. I really want to go back to
the work space and get working.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by johng on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 7:23 PM PDT
I enjoyed seeing your prints today. Check out a post I made below on gelatin printing information.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by mary on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:52 AM PDT
Yesterday,
I was beginning to freak out because I was DOUBTing myself and my
ideas. But, they are all I've got. So, I went from being ambivilent
about which direction to take to just picking one idea I've been
thinking about over and over.
After class
yesterday, I called a fabric company in China town to find out if they
carried patterns and to find out how late they were open. I went to Win
Mill Fabric store on Chauncy street and had a delightful time. I looked
through all the pattern books, sat on a dirty milk cart and met a big
fat tabby cat named "Winny". The people working there were very
helpful. I told them I have basic sewing skills and about my idea for
an art garment. I left there feeling confident about having a direction
and the materials to begin my work.
I decided
to grab a bite to eat in China Town. I did not like my combination
appetizer plate. The two egg rolls were extremely oily and greasy. Each
time I took a bite, oil dripped all over the place. The two chicken
wings were big but could have been tastier. The boneless spare ribs had
alot of fat in them. The Pina Colada was excellent and so was the
yellow, Jasmine (?) tea.
When I got back to my
car. I had two parking tickets. One for $20 dollars for an expired
inspection sticker. The other for $120.00 for parking in a handicapped
place. I will appeal this ticket because there was no sign indicating I
was illegally parked.
This morning I was ready to begin my work. And that felt comforting to me. mary
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by mak on Sunday, July 17, 2005 @ 10:00 AM PDT
I
can completely identify with your feeling of doubt. I had a major
doubting experience myself last week. My style, when I have these
doubts, is to talk and talk with people. That's what I did and I found
a better direction. Also I appreciate the name of the fabric place as I
have been looking for a good fabric place too.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by Debbie on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 10:55 AM PDT
The
text we're using ("In the Making") is highly recommended for insightful
views (and options) on Contemporary Art (in my opinion!).
Re: Day Three Stuff--HANDOUT from TODAY (Score: 0) by Guest (Lauren) on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 1:14 PM PDT Renewal Support & Growth Institute: Sourcing Inspiration & Extending Inspiration
July 11-21, 2005 • Massachusetts College of Art
Wednesday, July 13
Prepare: In
the morning, please bring a work plan (up to one page, can include text
and images/borrowed writings etc.) covering your goals for the next
week and a half. Identify at least one personal challenge in your
artmaking—a new area you’re hoping to explore or address, a new
material or process, a concept or problem to research and flesh out.
(Please remember to put your name on this work plan, and type if possible.)
Read/Reflect: On one or some combination of the following: • another artist or two in “In the Making” and “History of Modern Art” • an art movement • a piece of writing (essay, poem, etc.) • a current event in your own life or in society • some other source of inspiration
Tomorrow afternoon: In small groups we’ll discuss work plans and provide feedback and ideas for the next phase of the Institute.
Re: Day Three Stuff--HANDOUT from TODAY (Score: 1) by heather on Friday, July 15, 2005 @ 7:35 AM PDT
Julian LaVerdiere- internal sources of inspiration "My interest is one of hope." "I capitalize on people's ignorance."
note the funny misspelling of "public" p.145 of In the Making: "renowned pubic art organization." "IS making art producing commodities?" JV: "No. It is a way of producing inventions and sculture that illustrate how life sould be addressed and better understood."
Willaim Kentridge- "The Main Complaint"- "dealing with the distress that lingers even after the abuses have ceased." "narratives that provide the vehicle for addressing the a collective maoral awakening."
"evolution of politics toward unforeseen conclusions, engaging equal possibilities for error and improvement." (p. 13) "Drawing for me is about fluidity....testing of ideas, slow-motion version of thought." Documenta X "My
rule number one- have something to say. The other is , do what you are
good at and what you enjoy, and in the end people will respect you for
it."
Questions for Thomas Kinkade: How
have you convinced a large number of people that your images should be
in their homes? Was a lot of convincing/ marketing necessary? Did you devise a marketing strategy before you started making work? How are you connected to this imagery? How much of your time now is devoted to making work, and to the business end of your work? Do
you feel imprisoned by your work? Do you feel like you have the freedom
to create other kinds of work if you wanted to? What works of art or
artists inspire you? Describe the general type of person that would buy
one of your works. Who honored you the title "Painter of Light"?
Questions for Nan Goldin: What do you consider communicating with your audience? I
appreciate the honesty that is portrayed in your work- has there ever
been a photograph that you felt was too painful for you yourself to
share with others? Is there a moment that you wished you could have captured but missed? How do you manage to be in the right time and right place? You
mentioned that "snapshots [are] the form of photgraphy most defined by
love." Do you feel that digital cameras are capable of conveying that
same sense of love?
Re: Day Three Stuff--HANDOUT from TODAY (Score: 1) by mak on Friday, July 15, 2005 @ 7:57 AM PDT
Dialog with Matthew Barney. Where do you get your ideas? Your images seem like they are from an elaborate dream, even nightmare-like? To
me, a woman, your work seems very masculine. Philip Guston's work seems
very masculine to me also. Both of you have the image of flayed skin,
for instance. The sensuality in your work is raw and even scary to me. What contemporary artists do you relate to? Your work is so huge and vivid. Do you find other artists' work to be too cerebral or tame compared to yours? Is there a biographical aspect to your work?
Re: Day Three Stuff - Phlogiston (Score: 1) by eleanor on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 6:15 PM PDT http://elramsay.com Excerpt from the Phlogiston entry at Wikipedia
"The
theory was developed by J. J. Becher late in the 17th century and
extended and popularized by Georg Ernst Stahl who declared the rusting
of metal to be a combustion process.
The
theory holds that all flammable materials contain phlogiston (derived
noun form of the Greek phlogistos, meaning flammable), a substance
without color, odor, taste, or weight that is liberated in burning.
Once burned, the "dephlogisticated" substance was held to be in its
"true" form, the calx.
The theory is related
to alchemical notions of the classical elements: fire, water, air and
earth. All substances were held to be a combination of these four
elements."
Re: Day Three Stuff - Phlogiston (Score: 1) by potter on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 7:00 PM PDT
You
are unbelieveable to find this and get it posted for all of us to see.
You amaze me with your skills and knowledge. I'm glad to be able to
work with you even if it is for this short time period. I certainly
learned more than one new thing today! Steven
Re: Day Three Stuff - Phlogiston (Score: 1) by mak on Sunday, July 17, 2005 @ 10:04 AM PDT
Very
interesting. I'm not surprised that "potter" would find this especially
interesting what with the element of fire being so pertinent to his
work.
For the young who want to (Score: 1) by johng on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 7:02 PM PDT
For the young who want to By Marge Piercy
Talent is what they say you have after the novel is published and favorably reviewed. Beforehand what you have is a tedious delusion, a hobby like knitting.
Work is what you have done after the play is produced and the audience claps. Before that friends keep asking when you are planning to go out and get a job.
Genius is what they know you had after the third volume of remarkable poems. Earlier they accuse you of withdrawing, ask why you don't have a baby, call you a bum.
The reason people want M.F.A.'s, take workshops with fancy names when all you can really learn is a few techniques, typing instructions and some- body else's mannerisms
is that every artist lacks a license to hang on the wall like your optician, your vet proving you may be a clumsy sadist whose fillings fall into the stew but you're certified a dentist.
The real writer is one who really writes. Talent is an invention like phlogiston after the fact of fire. Work is its own cure. You have to like it better than being loved.
Re: For the young who want to (Score: 1) by eleanor on Sunday, July 17, 2005 @ 10:13 AM PDT http://elramsay.com Thanks for posting this John. I love this poem because it is so honest.
Gelatin Prints (Score: 1) by johng on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 7:19 PM PDT
Steven
is doing gelatin prints--a great printmaking technique that gets
amazing results. It also very art classroom friendly. Check outhis work
if you are interested. The following is some pointers on doing gelatin
prints, John G
Gelatin Monoprints
Gelatin recipe and process:
If using Knox gelatin, double the amount of gelatin for the amount of water specified. Example: 2 packets of gelatin per 1 cup of water.
Process: Boil
water. Add gelatin and stir until dissolved. Let cool for a few
minutes. You may get “clumps” of gelatin in the water—if so, strain
when pouring into the trays (see below).
Place
styrofoam meat packing trays on a cookie sheet. Pour the liquid gelatin
about 3/4 inch thick into the trays. Allow the gelatin to set up in the
frig. When the gelatin sets (a few hours) cut the edge of the styrofoam
off on all four sides with a sharp knife. You can cut the sheets to any
desired size.
You are ready to print.
Gelatin
prints are an ideal classroom printing process because results are
immediate. They use water-based printing ink and therefore do not
require clean up with solvents.
A sheet of
gelatin, an animal by-product found in some foods (jello) and vitamins,
is used as a printing “plate”. Water-based printing ink or textile inks
are used to coat the plates. Textured objects in low relief, such as
leaves, string or other items can be placed on the gelatin plate to
acquire an impression of the object, resembling a solarized photograph.
Stencils, as well as positive cut out shapes can be used to achieve
layers of shapes and positive/negative effects. The process can be used
in short class periods and is appropriate for all ages.
On
a plexiglass palette, spread out the water-based ink with a SOFT
brayer. The ink is applied to the gelatin plate in a semi-transparent.
The ink will not be opaque.
Place objects on
the plate-be careful not to move them once they are placed. Lay a piece
of newsprint or other cheap paper over the surface of the plate and
gently rub the entire surface. Pull the paper away and remove the
objects. Now take a piece of good paper and place on the plate. Rub and
pull away the print.
You can print multiple
layers on one piece of paper. The silhouettes from the first “pull” can
be used as the basis for another print.
Good luck.
Re: Gelatin Prints (Score: 1) by potter on Thursday, July 14, 2005 @ 5:55 PM PDT
John,
thanks for posting this "how to". I think that it will be really
helpful for those who have not done this type of printing before.
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by Jan on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 7:34 PM PDT
I
love the tranquillity of this photo by Thomas Cooper (Pg. 188 In the
Making) The time of day, weather, lighting... make this photo so
wonderful. Did the artist wait around for hours for that perfect moment?
Re: Day Three Stuff (Score: 1) by ccommossabercrombie on Sunday, July 17, 2005 @ 11:52 AM PDT
I
am working on my painting and using acrylics. It is not drying as fast
as usual I assume because of the humidity. Why am I working with
acrylics? It is not a new media. But to work larger and in series, for
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